About the former New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardn “to a different power” project

These days, in the local coffee shop near Boston, Jacinda can be another client. “I don’t put my name in order; it’s very complicated!” Laughed.

I asked: “While people order coffee here, do people start politics with you?”

“No, not at all,” said Ardern replied. “In fact, the guy behind the meter told me:” Ah, you really know. Oh, I know: Tony Collette! “”

A moment that will never be in New Zealand, Ardern has the youngest woman in the world when he was only 37 years old. Now the 44-year-old Prime Minister Ardern has been living in the United States since the office two years ago. Serves as a fellow at Harvard University and wrote a new book, “A different power” (Will be broadcast with June 3).

From the hood, “I think there are different ways to lead. But I hope that maybe they are perhaps weaker or even incredibly strong.”

Ardern says the story is about finding his voice in a small nation of about five million people in New Zealand. “I never saw myself a prime minister,” he said.

In fact, his father told Ardern that he was very “thin skin” for politics.

It’s right? “He was completely right!” Laughed. “But I think I am fixing it, your sensitivity is your empathy. Goodness, we need a little more?”

The answer in New Zealand was Yes. Prior to the 2017 election, Ardern suddenly became the leader of the Labor Party based on his country. A few weeks after the winner announced a few weeks: Was pregnant. On his journey, the partner, now, ARS, Clarke, soon gained global attention.

Was it comfortable with the symbolism of his role? Ardern, “I thought I could do their job when I heard of his boss and hear the level of confidence, I felt like I was needed to show my job and Be the mother. ”

However, these hilarious early days were followed by difficulties. In 2019 Mass Shots targeting Muslims in Christchurch More than 50 Deads left – Opt for activities for New Zealand and the action for the leader: Ban on semi-automatic weapons.

I asked, “Why and why your colleagues in New Zealand believe you can achieve arms control reforms after a terrible mass shooting, but often have such legislation changes in the United States difficult?”

“I can’t talk to the US experience,” Artern replied: “But if we really want to say,” We should demonstrate what we do to make a reality. “

However, after gaining another election, things were not easy. As worn by the pandemic, the tensions of the government’s conducted politics were flared. In 2023, when he surprised many by deciding the resignation He wore his heart in his armIn the Parliament: “You can be a Hugger in Nerd, a Cryer, you can be all of these things and you can be here, you can be like me.”

Although he left the Office, he did not stop to keep an eye on our turbulent bonds. The President asked Trump and trade and foreign policy decisions, “You know, we know that people see deep financial insecurity and continue to solve the depression by political leaders or resolve ourselves by political leaders clever It has been in a long time and has a long-term negative impact on some collective problems we need to apply as a global society. “

So far, Ardern is not an angle to withdraw to politics, but it falls into a new normal situation – that is, “only a normal family.”

Or from a Harvard class or a world leader – “Jacinda Ardern is something that our children teach ourselves. The more voters need to be seen.”

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The story produced by Sarah Kugel. Editor: Joseph Frandino.